Morrowind:Telvanni Hortator

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Persuade House Telvanni to name you their Hortator.

Quest Giver:	Master Aryon at Tel Vos
Location(s):	Tel Mora, Gnisis, Tel Branora, Sadrith Mora, Tel Aruhn
Prerequisite Quest:	The Path of the Incarnate
Next Quest:	Hortator and Nerevarine
Concurrent Quest:	Hlaalu Hortator, Redoran Hortator, Ahemmusa Nerevarine, Zainab Nerevarine, Erabenimsun Nerevarine, Urshilaku Nerevarine
Reward:	Robe of the Hortator
Reputation Gain:	+4
ID:	B7_TelvanniHort, B7_AryonHort, B7_BaladasHort, B7_DrathaHort, B7_GothrenHort, B7_NelothHort, B7_TelvanniBook, B7_TheranaHort
Required Items:	Levitate Spell
Difficulty:	Medium

The six councilors you need to convince: Aryon, Baladas Demnevanni, Dratha, Gothren, Neloth, and Therana

Quick WalkthroughEdit

Meet with Master Aryon in Tel Vos (Upper Chamber) to receive an overview of the Telvanni councilors.
Get Aryon to vote for you as the Hortator.
Convince Mistress Dratha in the Upper Tower in Tel Mora.
Convince Master Neloth in Tel Naga (Sadrith Mora).
Convince Mistress Therana in the Upper Tower of Tel Branora.
Convince Master Baladas in Arvs-Drelen (Gnisis) if necessary.
Kill Gothren in the Upper Tower of Tel Aruhn.
Return to Master Aryon to be named Hortator of House Telvanni.

Detailed WalkthroughEdit

OverviewEdit

This quest is part of convincing each of the three Great Houses to vote you as their Hortator. The exact order you do the houses in is not important. The House Telvanni portion of the Hortator quests is a bit different since in the end you can ultimately kill all the Telvanni council members instead of persuading them all (as is their custom for resolving disputes). Of course, this route is not the suggested one, but it is possible. In any case, if you are already the Archmagister of House Telvanni, you will become the Hortator as soon as you discuss the topic with Master Aryon.

It is highly recommended you acquire some means of levitation before undertaking this quest, as it is needed to reach all of the council members except Master Baladas.

Master AryonEdit

The Mouths in the Telvanni Council Hall will suggest that you first speak to Master Aryon in Tel Vos (just west of Tel Mora and opposite Vos). Aryon can be found in his chambers at the top of the tower, within the root-like structure that wraps around it. The easiest way to reach his door is to levitate; however, if your Acrobatics skill is very high (at or near the cap), you can alternatively climb to the top of the central tower and jump from platform to platform to reach it, or simply head out the back door of the Barracks and Armory and jump directly to it from there.

Upon talking to him, he immediately affirms his vote for you being the Hortator. If you are the Archmagister of House Telvanni, this alone is sufficient to make you Hortator; otherwise, he also tells you about the other council members that you must convince to get their votes. Master Neloth is ill-tempered, Mistress Dratha doesn't like men, Mistress Therana is losing her mind and Archmagister Gothren will probably delay his vote indefinitely. Aryon recommends that you kill Gothren, admitting that he stands to gain from the Archmagister's death. He tells you his advice is still good, and, as detailed below, it is.

Mistress DrathaEdit

Mistress Dratha is found in the Upper Tower in Tel Mora (just east of Tel Vos). If you're playing as a female you'll get her support right away. If you're a man however, you'll need to raise her disposition quite a bit to get her to support you (80 or higher). If you're a man and not a member of House Telvanni you will need to raise her disposition by using your Speechcraft (61 or higher) to persuade her or bribe her with lots of gold, or otherwise kill her. If you can get her disposition high enough, you can Hurl yourself at her feet and plead for a hearing. After you get her vote, she will also throw in four Summon Golden Saint scrolls if your character is female; just one if you are playing a male.

Master NelothEdit

Master Neloth in the Upper Tower at Tel Naga (you will need to levitate to get to it) in Sadrith Mora will give you his vote for Hortator if you raise his disposition high enough (70 or higher).

Mistress TheranaEdit

Mistress Therana is found in the Upper Tower of Tel Branora, which is on an island at the far southeast corner of the game map (you can reach it by boat from Sadrith Mora, Molag Mar, Ebonheart, and Vivec). Talking with her will cause her to tell a long and irrelevant story. You can interrupt her by amusing her if you have a Speechcraft skill of 30 or higher, or you can successfully interrupt her with a story of your own if her disposition is 80 or higher. All other actions will result in failure.

Master BaladasEdit

If you are a member of House Telvanni and have done the quest to convince Baladas Demnevanni to join the Council, you'll have to ask him for his vote as well. Master Baladas can be found in Arvs-Drelen in Gnisis and will give you his vote if his disposition is 40 or higher. Otherwise you will have to raise his disposition again before he gives you his support. Don't worry if you killed him after persuading him to join the council as the game will treat the situation as if he never joined.

GothrenEdit

Gothren can be found in the Upper Tower of Tel Aruhn, just west of Sadrith Mora. Unfortunately, unlike the other council members, no matter what you do to persuade Gothren, he won't give you a decision, forcing you to kill him as Aryon suggested. If you raise his disposition high enough, he will eventually give you a direct refusal. This is no easy battle as Gothren is a master spellcaster and he has two Dremora guarding him. Gothren has a spell called Gothren's Gout that paralyzes while damaging you, so some equipment that resists paralyzation or gear that gives 100% magicka resistance is helpful. If you get a few good surprise hits in with a powerful weapon, or paralyze him, he won't have much time to cast anything.

If you have the means, command one of the Dremora protecting Gothren. This way, Gothren will kill it for you while still taking damage himself from his own ally. You can then kill the other Dremora (or take control of it) much more easily before turning fire to Gothren.

Alternatively, attacking either of the Dremora flanking him will cause all three to attack you without the other tower residents joining in. Taunting Gothren will have the same result.

Becoming HortatorEdit

Any councilor (including Therana) can give you the title of Hortator once all surviving councilors agree, even with Aryon dead. However, to get the Robe of the Hortator you must go to Aryon and tell him you have obtained all the votes - if Aryon is dead, the robe will be in a crate near the entrance to his chambers.

NotesEdit

While you are in Tel Vos, check the northeastern Tower. Look for a hidden door on the second landing from the bottom of the staircase. This will lead to a trapdoor which in turn leads to a small room with Azura's Servant (an enchanted Daedric Shield), an enchanted spear and an axe. Be aware that a powerful creature guards this room.
In the Upper Tower at Tel Naga there are several locked/trapped golden doors. You are free to pick these without consequence, and one contains a leveled set of Alchemy Apparatus.
If you plan on joining House Telvanni later, be aware that killing Gothren will prevent you from doing either of Mallam Ryon's quests.

Quest StagesEdit

The following Journal ID and Index codes can be used with the Journal console command to manually update the quest to a certain point.

Telvanni Hortator (B7_TelvanniHort)
Index	Finishes Quest	Journal Entry
50	Finishes quest	I have been named Hortator of House Telvanni by the surviving councilors of that house. When I have been declared Hortator of all three Houses, Redoran, Hlaalu, and Telvanni, I will have fulfilled the Fourth Trial of the Seven Visions of Seven Trials of the Incarnate.
60	Finishes quest	As the sole surviving councilor of House Telvanni, I have declared myself Hortator of House Telvanni. When I have been declared Hortator of all three Houses, Redoran, Hlaalu, and Telvanni, I will have fulfilled the Fourth Trial of the Seven Visions of Seven Trials of the Incarnate.
70	Finishes quest	Master Aryon gave me the Robe of the Hortator, an heirloom token of my status as Telvanni Hortator.
Telvanni Hortator (B7_TelvanniBook)
1		I have been given a recent edition of the Brown Book of Great House Telvanni. It lists the current Telvanni councilors and their residences.
Telvanni Hortator (B7_AryonHort)
5		I asked Galos Mathendis if Master Aryon would vote for me as Hortator of House Telvanni. Mathendis said I would have to speak directly to Aryon on a matter of such importance.
40		Master Aryon told me that Archmagister Gothren never directly refuses requests, but delays indefinitely, never giving an answer. Master Aryon advised killing Gothren, which is how political disputes are resolved in House Telvanni.
50		After hearing my story, Master Aryon agreed to make me the Telvanni Hortator. He said the other councilors might need some persuading. Master Neloth is ill-tempered, and Mistress Therana is losing her mind. Dratha will like me since I'm female. Master Aryon told me that Archmagister Gothren would delay my request indefinitely. He advised me to kill Archmagister Gothren.
55		After hearing my story, Master Aryon agreed to make me the Telvanni Hortator. He said the other councilors might need some persuading. Master Neloth is ill-tempered, Mistress Therana is losing her mind, and Mistress Dratha has a problem with men. Master Aryon told me that Archmagister Gothren would delay my request indefinitely. He advised me to kill Archmagister Gothren.
Telvanni Hortator (B7_DrathaHort)
5		I asked Mouth Raven Omayn if Mistress Dratha would vote for me as Hortator of House Telvanni. Omayn said I would have to speak directly to Dratha on a matter of such importance.
10		I asked Mouth Raven Omayn if Mistress Dratha would vote for me as Hortator of House Telvanni. Omayn said that might be a problem, since Dratha hates men. Omayn suggested I do everything possible to improve her disposition before I asked her.
30		I asked Mistress Dratha if she would vote for me as Hortator of House Telvanni. She wouldn't even listen to my story. I hope I can find some way to improve her disposition before I try again.
50		I asked Mistress Dratha if she would vote for me as Hortator of House Telvanni. After hearing my story, she agreed without hesitation to give me her vote.
60		Once I got Mistress Dratha to listen to my story, she was more than willing to name me Hortator of House Telvanni.
Telvanni Hortator (B7_NelothHort)
5		I asked Mouth Arara Uvulas if Master Neloth would vote for me as Hortator of House Telvanni. Uvulas said I would have to speak directly to Neloth on a matter of such importance.
30		I asked Master Neloth if he would vote for me as Hortator of House Telvanni. Neloth is a cranky, ill-tempered old wizard, impatient and quick to anger. He shouted at me for interrupting him with such nonsense. Perhaps I can find some way to improve his disposition before I try again.
50		When I finally got Master Neloth to listen to me, he casually gave his vote for me as Hortator. It was clear that he didn't care one way or the other.
Telvanni Hortator (B7_TheranaHort)
5		I asked Mouth Felisa Ulessen if Mistress Therana would vote for me as Hortator of House Telvanni. Ulessen said I would have to speak directly to Therana on a matter of such importance. Ulessen warned me that Therana was very eccentric, and it may be hard to get and keep her attention long enough to ask the question. She also suggested I rely on keeping her happy rather than annoy her with details and arguments.
30		I tried to ask Mistress Therana if she would vote for me as Hortator of House Telvanni, but it was impossible to get her attention. She's easily distracted. Maybe if I concentrate on being charming and entertaining, I'll be able to focus her attention on me.
50		When I managed to catch Mistress Therana's attention, it was easy to get her to agree to vote for me. I'm not sure she knew what she was voting for, or why. But when I asked, "Will you vote for me as Hortator," she said, quite clearly, "You want to be a Hortator? Certainly. Go right ahead."
Telvanni Hortator (B7_BaladasHort)
5		I asked Mouth Edras [sic] if Master Baladas would vote for me as Hortator of House Telvanni. Edras [sic] said I would have to speak directly to Baladas on a matter of such importance.
30		I asked Master Baladas if he would vote for me as Hortator of House Telvanni. He declined, saying he felt I had treated him disrespectfully.
50		I asked Master Baladas if he would vote for me as Hortator of House Telvanni. He said he had found me, on the whole, an agreeable colleague, and thought I was a suitable candidate for Hortator.
Telvanni Hortator (B7_GothrenHort)
5		I asked Mouth Mallam Ryon if Archmagister Gothren would vote for me as Hortator of House Telvanni. Ryon said I would have to speak directly to Gothren on a matter of such importance.
30		I asked Archmagister Gothren if he would vote for me as Hortator of House Telvanni. He listened to my story carefully, and said he found my proofs persuasive. He said, however, that it was a very grave responsibility to make such a decision, and that he would need some time to reflect and consider, and to confer with other councilors.
50		It was very difficult, but I managed to get Archmagister to admit that he had no intention of naming me Hortator of House Telvanni. He said it was not in Telvanni interests to name an unknown and unreliable outlander and outsider to such an important position.
60		It was very difficult, but I managed to get Archmagister to admit that he had no intention of naming me Hortator of House Telvanni. He said I clearly was attempting to use the office of Hortator as a means of advancing my own interests. He refuses to discuss the subject further, and threatened to kill me if I continued to annoy him.