User talk:Pappasmurf

Where to Put your Complaints and point out my mistakesEdit

• Please tell me what I am doing wrong here. I am new to the whole wiki thing and I would appreciate any criticism you can give me.

Your EditsEdit

Hey, could you not use first person tense in your edits? We're an encyclopedia, so we don't use that. Thanks. --Ratwar 22:05, 3 February 2007 (EST)

Ah. My apologies. Thank you for telling me :) Pappasmurf 09:55, 4 February 2007 (EST)

Yourmotha (the user)Edit

I noticed something a bit strange when doing the standard IP check of a user by the name of Yourmotha (talk · contribs · email). Could you let me in on what happened, please? --Aristeo | Talk 01:41, 11 February 2007 (EST)

This is my friend's friends computer and he is a little drunk... He put some innapropriate stuff on here with a new account earlier but I deleted it. My sincere apologies. I think this is what you meant but I don't know if that is what an IP check is, please elaborate. Pappasmurf 02:40, 11 February 2007 (EST)

I thought something like that was up. No problem :) And thanks for fixing it!

An IP check is where either me or Nephele look up a username to get their IP address(es) to see if they have any other accounts. --Aristeo | Talk 18:32, 11 February 2007 (EST)

I fix your spelling mistakesEdit

If it okay with you. My name is Mike.--ShakenMike 17:38, 22 February 2007 (EST)

Thanks Mike :)Pappasmurf 17:46, 22 February 2007 (EST)

No Problem glad to help. Do you beaten Morrowind and Obivion yet?--ShakenMike 04:24, 24 February 2007 (EST)

Did you beaten the whole game of Obivion?Edit

I'm just wondering thats all. I beat the Fighters guild and became the master of the guild (What are the features of the guild?)--ShakenMike 16:34, 23 February 2007 (EST)

I have beaten the Arena faction the Mages guild faction the Theives guild Faction and the Dark Brotherhood faction. I have not beaten the fighters guild yet. (I am about halfway through it now.) Pappasmurf 16:04, 1 March 2007 (EST)

Verb/AdjectiveEdit

How about "clean"? If you clean something it becomes clean. ^_^

Well, that was a fun and grammatical 30 seconds of my life. -- JustTheBast 10:30, 9 March 2007 (EST)

Ah, I see I overlooked the "noun" part. Well, that sounds like a challenge that will keep me busy for days on end. ^_^ -- JustTheBast 10:40, 9 March 2007 (EST)

A noun, a verb and an adjective.Edit

I saw this goal on your user page and thought I would mention that it probably depends on whether or not you accept participles and gerunds. A participle is a verb that acts like an adjective. An example would be: The barking dog stopped barking. A gerund is a verb that acts like a noun. An example would be: Barking is annoying. Thus, barking (and virtually any verb) can be a noun (gerund) and an adjective (participle) while being verbs as well. As for words that are genuinely nouns, verbs, and adjectives without acting as participles or gerunds, I'm not sure if there are any at all. Cheers! Mebestien 10:33, 9 March 2007 (EST)

Hmmm it's been awhile scence I've learned this stuff. I remembered participles while gerund's I have completley forgotten... Something to google it seemes :)Pappasmurf 11:54, 9 March 2007 (EST)

Forgive me, but the first word I think of is-heh-f**k, and forms thereof. Then, I ran across one:

Noun-I have some shoe polish.

Verb-I polish my shoes.

Adjective-My neighbor is Polish. Sa, there! Somercy 12:21, 9 March 2007 (EST)

The only rule is that it has to be a single word. Whereas polish and Polish are homonyms but are actually different words. :) Pappasmurf 12:34, 9 March 2007 (EST)

Drat, I thought I had it. Somercy 12:35, 9 March 2007 (EST)

Oh and prefixes/suffixes don't count. (if they did most words would be eligable) :) Pappasmurf 12:37, 9 March 2007 (EST)

dictionary.com gives me time...http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/time for proof. Somercy 12:48, 9 March 2007 (EST)

Hmmm, I see that... How, though, is time an adjective? Pappasmurf 12:55, 9 March 2007 (EST)

A time bomb. Also, counterfeit can be all three. Somercy 12:56, 9 March 2007 (EST)

I'm not convinced whether the "time" in "time bomb" counts as an adjective; seems more like a compound noun. "Counterfeit", though, looks perfect. -- JustTheBast 14:32, 9 March 2007 (EST)

"Die", as in, "If you swallow that die-cast 20-sided die, you may choke and die." --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 14:07, 9 March 2007 (EST)

That's a homonym again, I'm afraid. Pappasmurf said it had to be etymologically one single word. -- JustTheBast 14:26, 9 March 2007 (EST)

Thats true i'm afraid :( Pappasmurf 15:00, 9 March 2007 (EST)

Ah so we have counterfit! Good one Somercy ;) Now the question remains, how many are there? (also I will not be able to edit again until next Thursday so if you say something and I dont get back to you I apologise. :) Pappasmurf 15:07, 9 March 2007 (EST)

Fake also works. Some others: light, clear, stone. --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 16:31, 9 March 2007 (EST)

Unfortunately, clear is not a noun it seems (It is a verb, an adjective, and an adverb). Also, stone is not an adjective (A stone statue would be a compound noun). Fake works perfectly. Mebestien 23:18, 9 March 2007 (EST)

I beg to differ. "We're in the clear", uses clear as a noun. And stone is certainly an adjective. It can be used with almost any noun. How is "stone statue" different from "grey statue"? Nobody would argue that "grey" is not an adjective. But if you need other sources, how about [1] & [2], and for stone: [3], [4], & [5] --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 23:39, 9 March 2007 (EST)

Fine. We're using different dictionaries with different rules. And if you want to accept idioms, that's fine.

I think stone's an adjective. The stone wall--stone modifies the noun, wall. Somercy 12:21, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

Sorry, but "stone" is not an real adjective; The compound noun "stone wall" is merely a convenient way of saying "a wall of stone", just as an ice floe is a floe of ice, etc.

You can test this with "stone" or any other noun quite easily, by asking yourself some questions: Does it work in any other way, apart from combining it directly with the other noun? Can you separate the two words and rearrange the sentence, like you could with a real adjective? Can you say "That wall is very stone" the way you could say "that floor is very clean"? Can you build the positive and superlative forms to say, "That is the stonest wall I've ever seen," the way you could say "the cleanest floor"? (Admittedly, not all real adjectives have sensible comparatives either, so this is just another indicator, not proof.)

"Stone" does not work and behave like an adjective, unless you count each and every noun that can in some way be combined with another noun - and that's almost every one of them. A physics lecture is a lecture about physics, not a lecture that happens to be very physics. Air pressure is the pressure of air, not pressure that is air-like. Moon rocks are rocks from the moon, not rocks that have a moonish quality. And so on.

The specific noun "stone" is one word for which you could probably find a lot of adjective-like shorthands in the English language (such as "his heart is stone" for "...made of stone"), simply because it's a material with which we humans have dealt and that we have used since before there even was an english language. It seeped into many phrases and expressions, both used as a metaphor or as a reference to the real, physical material. -- JustTheBast 05:34, 24 March 2007 (EDT)

You might not be able to say "That wall is very stone", but you could easily say "That wall is stone". It doesn't need to immediately proceed the noun, thus it's not a compound noun. Not every adjective has to be modifiable by an adverb. (Which is what you do when you try to put "very" in front of it.) --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 15:34, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

Despite mentioning the phrase "in the clear," my dictionary fails to verify it as a noun. Clearness appears as the noun form. It also fails to mention stone as an adjective, nor for rock. Interestinly, it seems like most or all of the colors can be all three as well. They are obviously adjectives (blue house), and they are also nouns (I like the color blue). To blue seems to be a verb meaning either to become blue (intransitive) or to turn something blue (transitive). Mebestien 18:34, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

Love works, I think. It's a noun and a verb, but I'm not sure about it being an adjective. -- Chaos Monkey ^Talk 18:48, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

It's not an adjective as far as I am aware. Loveable, loving, and lovely are, however. Mebestien 18:51, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

What about love bite? it alters bite just like stone alters wall. Unless it's like time.67.142.130.42 18:57, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

And "love child", but I think both of those really are compound nouns, unlike "stone statue". Another one that might work is "steel" (and no I don't mean "steal"). Noun and adjective are obvious, and you might "steel yourself up" for a tough ordeal. "Iron" certainly works. Actually a lot of material type words work. "Plaster", "rock", "solder", "paper", "tile", all work to a degree. --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 22:03, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

Faint. That came to me after hearing a qoute about "faint praise," but it's good, eh? Somercy 13:47, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

I'd say that it counts. All three uses derive from the same root meaning. "If the praise was too faint, she was wont to faint. Unless, of course, the faint was feigned." -- JustTheBast 14:01, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

Top works. "He'll be the top salesperson in the company if he can manage to top the old guy who's currently at the top." --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 15:08, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

I'm debating whether jade is a verb. Webster's Unabridged 2nd ed. says yes, so there. Somercy 12:54, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

I guess technically, though I don't think I've ever heard the term used except in the past-participle form. You can become "jaded", but it's not like there's a single event that can "jade" you. Plus, the noun and verb are false cognates - the verb has no relation at all with the precious stone. (The adjective does, since it relates to the color of that stone.)

How about quiet? "A quiet house", "some peace and quiet", and "Would somebody quiet those dogs?" Also hush to a lesser extent. "I gave him some hush money so that he would hush, and then the room quieted to a hush". Only problem is "hush money" is kind of a compound noun, in that you'd never see "hush" as adjective in any other circumstances. --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 13:05, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

Quiet is good :) Wow, I feel like an idiot for not being able to figure any out. X^P I am going to try to cumulate these on my home page. Pappasmurf 15:06, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

If you don't mind your manners and stop playing mind games, you might lose your mind. --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 23:58, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

Is mind an ajective? It seems Mind Games is a Compound Noun Pappasmurf 15:54, 17 March 2007 (EDT)

Foil - may be questionable on two counts, since first of all the adjective is rarely used - "An aluminum foil sculpture", for example, but secondly, the noun and verb are not really related that I can tell. You can foil somebody's plans, and wrap your head in foil, but I'm not sure those are the same word. (Though foiling plans may be related to a fencing foil, not sure.) Another one that's questionable for the same reasons - bat. You can swing a bat, or bat at flies, (or bats for that matter), but the word is only used as an adjective in phrases like "bat boy", or any of numerous Batman-related items. (e.g. Shark-repellent bat spray) You could also bar somebody from entering the bar and becoming a bar-fly or hitting on the bar-maids and getting in fights with the bartenders, but those would be compound nouns again. --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 11:24, 19 March 2007 (EDT)

Here's an interesting one - Arch. Noun is an architectural construction, (actually, it's the root of the word "architecture") verb is what an arrow does after you fire it from a bow, and the adjective is a synonym for "mischievous". Can also be used to describe the highest degree of something, e.g. arch enemy, arch bishop, etc. --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 16:04, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

Are these not homonyms? :( Pappasmurf 17:23, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

Cream is one. "The boy licked the cream off of his oreo cookies while wearing his new cream Nikes bought from a store next to the factory where they cream butter/milk." I had to use a dictionary, more specifically I used dictionary.com to make sure. Noun - Of course, cream from milk. Adjective - Cream colored. Verb - To work to a creamy mass, to allow (milk) to form cream, cream your jeans (hehe), and many others. CRACK-A-BACK 07:19, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

Another one would be book. "I booked the flight at the book department at a workstation while reading a book". Noun - Book that you read. Verb - to register or list (a person) for a place, transportation, appointment, etc. Adjective - Of or pertaining to books. CRACK-A-BACK 07:34, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

I woke up this morning with the word stray scrawled on my hand. A dog can stray. A dog can be a stray. That is a stray dog. Oy. Somercy 10:26, 7 December 2007 (EST)

Welcome Back!Edit

Saw the edit on your user page, had to stop in and say hi. What's new on your end? Glad to see you again! Somercy 19:20, 29 November 2007 (EST)

lol glad to be back. Nothin' much. I honestly forgot my password for like a year and then I was looking for the shrines of akatosh and suddenly remembered. *shrug*

Heh. Dork. Then again, my pass is game-inspired, too. Heh. Somercy 19:31, 29 November 2007 (EST)