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Quick WalkthroughEdit
Detailed WalkthroughEdit
Readying the AmbushEdit
Speak to Hannibal Traven to begin the quest, then travel to the ruins of Silorn southwest of the Imperial City and just southeast of Skingrad. Meet the three Battlemages (Iver, Merete, and the leader Thalfin) outside the ruins. They were supposed to storm the ruins but cannot—the door is magically sealed. Instead, they have decided to wait for the necromancers to come out and then attack. Ask the battlemages about their Abilities to figure out how best to arrange them.
- Thalfin will say: "I have to admit, I'm better with an axe than I am with magic. I've been working on spellcasting, but I still feel better with a weapon in hand."
- Merete will say: "Well, I excelled in my studies in magic, especially large-scale spells. I'm pretty accurate with them, too. More accurate than swinging a sword."
- And Iver will tell you: "I can manage with a weapon or with spells, but I've really been working on healing lately. I'm getting pretty good at it."
The optimal strategy is to place Thalfin and Iver up close, and Merete in the distance.
Attack!Edit
Once everyone is in position, speak with Thalfin. Note that if you get too close to the ruin entrance, the necromancers spot you and the element of surprise is lost. Eventually, Falcar, the former head of the Cheydinhal Mages Guild, and three necromancers exit the ruins and head towards you. Once close enough, join your allies in the attack.
Falcar bolts for the ruins, and you can either chase him or help the battlemages deal with the remaining necromancers. Alternatively, you can sneak to the ruin entrance, encircle the ruins from the southern side and cut off Falcar's escape route. He won't fight back as he attempts to flee and if you manage to kill him before he gets to the ruins, you can simply take the soul gem and leave.
Falcar will likely make it back to the ruins with the Colossal Black Soul Gem you are after, so follow him inside. It is a rather long path to find him, and filled with necromancers and their undead friends. Make your way to Silorn Sedorseli, and exit through the northernmost door back into Silorn. This gives you access to a button which opens the way to Silorn Buroseli, where Falcar is found. Unlike the other necromancers in the area who tend to run around and make you chase them, Falcar charges straight at you and attacks aggressively with his dagger. He hits surprisingly hard and fast, so do not underestimate him. Kill him, loot the Colossal Black Soul Gem off his body and leave Silorn.
Return TriumphantEdit
Return with the gem to Traven. If Traven mentions the Battlemages, choose the Black Soul Gem topic to complete the quest.
NotesEdit
- While difficult, the patrolling necromancers outside can be eliminated by stealth without them sounding the alarm. However, this will not advance the quest stage. The entire scenario outside the ruin is intended to force you into dungeon diving in pursuit of Falcar. The unlocking of the entrance into the ruin is a scripted event. It can only be opened one of two ways.
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- Get noticed by one of the necromancers patrolling outside. If you are seen by either of these two they will sound the alarm. Falcar will then make a very brief appearance and the door will be unlocked.
- Speak to Thalfin and assign each of your fellow mages a duty. Once you have given all three an assignment Falcar will come out of the ruin a few seconds later.
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- Until the entire sequence of events involving getting into the ruin is run, Falcar is non-hostile. Attacking him is assault and killing him will count as murder. See Bugs.
- It is possible to sneak up on Falcar using Invisibility or stealth and simply pickpocket the soul gem from him, triggering the next stage and thus skipping the fight entirely. You won't need to enter the ruin and the quest stage will be automatically updated.
- Paralyzing or over-encumbering Falcar will also give you an opportunity to pickpocket the soul gem off of him before he escapes into the ruins. However, this will probably count as an assault.
- If you get suspended from the Mages Guild during the quest, Hannibal Traven will still accept the Colossal Black Soul Gem. Furthermore, he'll continue to give you tasks afterwards while remaining oblivious to the crimes you've done.
BugsEdit
- If you kill Falcar when he is not aggressive, it will count as a murder and the Dark Brotherhood questline will be initiated. This can be worked around by talking to him before attacking him.
- The Unofficial Oblivion Patch fixes this bug.
Journal EntriesEdit
Ambush (MG17Ambush) | ||
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Stage | Finishes Quest | Journal Entry |
10 | I need to travel to the south of Cyrodiil and meet a group of Battlemages preparing to storm the ruins of Silorn. | |
20 | I have arrived at Silorn, and spoken with Thalfin. We cannot enter the ruins, so I must help prepare an ambush for the Necromancers when they attempt to leave. | |
30 | I have been discovered by the Necromancers at Silorn. They will surely have alerted Falcar; I'll need to enter the ruins and find him. (This will appear in your journal if Falcar hasn't left Silorn yet.) or Falcar has fled back into the ruins of Silorn. I must find him. (This will appear in your journal if Falcar has left Silorn) |
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90 | I've recovered the Black Soul Gem. It needs to be taken back to Hannibal Traven at the Arcane University. | |
100 | The Black Soul Gem has been delivered to Hannibal Traven. |
- Notes
- Not all Journal Entries may appear in your journal; which entries appear and which entries do not depends on the manner in which the quest is done.
- Stages are not always in order of progress. This is usually the case with quests that have multiple possible outcomes or quests where certain tasks may be done in random order.
- If an entry is marked as "Finishes Quest" it means the quest disappears from the Active Quest list, but you may still receive new entries for that quest.
- It is possible to use the console to advance through the quest by entering
setstage MG17Ambush stage
, wherestage
is the number of the stage you wish to complete. It is not possible to un-complete (i.e. go back) quest stages. See SetStage for more information.
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