Oblivion talk:Janus Hassildor

Typo in top sectionEdit

Sorry to inflict my newbie-ness upon the talk pages, however, I can't figure out how to edit that very top paragraph. It should read "vampires are a problem for Janus Hassildor". I'm a stickler for spelling and grammar, what can I say. --CharmSpell 09:05, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

Figured it out, I was so used to seeing the little text "Edit" next to all the titles, I forgot about the little "edit" tab at the top. --CharmSpell 09:09, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

Just too quick for me! The other benefit of the edit tab at the top is that you can edit the whole page. That's very useful if you want to fix the spelling and grammar on an entire article rather than having to do one paragraph at a time. --Rpeh^Talk 09:12, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

JanusEdit

Is it worth mentioning that Janus was a Roman god with two faces? It seems an appropriate name for the Count, given his vampirism. Wikipedia has more, of course. --Rpeh^Talk 03:28, 11 August 2007 (EDT)

It's been discussed at Oblivion Talk:Easter Eggs#Janus Hassildor, where the conclusion seemed to be that Janus is a common Romanian name and therefore there is not a clear connection to the roman god. --Nephele^Talk 03:39, 11 August 2007 (EDT)

Bruma?Edit

I just saw him exiting Castle Bruma, something I have never seen before. Does he have business there or was it just a bug? Dark Echo 20:06, 21 December 2007 (EST)

There have been several cases where players have seen the Count in odd places; I've personally had him approach me at the bottom of a couple of cave systems, say "Please go" and walk off. His standard AI doesn't take him outside his castle (except on the one MG quest) so what you've seen is definitely a bug, just nothing out of the ordinary. —Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 06:35, 29 December 2007 (EST)

i have seen him in the arena sewers and he had dialog for the imperial city — Unsigned comment by 72.129.173.169 (talk) at 19:25 on 31 December 2007

GlitchEdit

I have found a glitch while doing the vampire cure quest and imformation at a price at the same time. While I was in bloodcrust looking for a vampire that seemed to have dissapeared, Janus walked into the cave and told me to go. Now I looked for the other vampire for a while but quit after about 30 minutes. There was then an update over xbox live after which i went to the cave and found the last vampire (after I killed him the quest update came up) and went to the castle. When I speak with Hal-Liurz she tells me to wait while she gets the count but then just stands there. I have searched the whole castle in vain trying to find the count but he is nowhere to be found. This predicament is halting my progress with both quests. If anyone has info on how to solve this without restarting my game(as i have no saves previous to this event)please contact me at mjbeier@shaw.ca

P.S. I believe i used the font of renewal during these quests as well which may have caused teh glitch but i still was able to drink the cure. — Unsigned comment by 24.70.95.204 (talk) at 11:16 on 5 February 2008

The main page already warns about the dangers of mixing the Hassildor-related quests. There's nothing that can be done I'm afraid. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 07:39, 5 February 2008 (EST)

I think i have made an amazing discovery. While I was ramdomly jumping on buildings in the skingrad castle courtyard I found a secret. If you jump up the railing on one of the staircases (the one on the right when you first walk in), and jump to the roof you can actually reach the edge of the map. If you peek over the edge at a certain point you can see the passageway to the chamber of the lost. If you jump down to it and go to the door, slowly walk of the end where the door is and you can go inside where low and behold our friend Janus Hassildor is waiting inside. Talk to him to the Information at a price quest. To exit you have to go out the door and fast travel to any location as the passage is still technically blocked off. After which you can go to Hal-Liurz to finish the Vampire Cure quest as she will take you into the chamber of the lost.--Crazydax 16:24, 9 February 2008 (EST)

I had the same problem. I was doing both quests simultaneously and so Hal-Liurz became completely useless in bringing Hassildor to me. I managed to sort it out by using the code TCL in the console to get to the Chamber of the Lost where Hassildor was sitting by his wife. — Unsigned comment by 123.2.135.3 (talk) at 12:41 on 2 June 2010

Actually, it seems that you can use this glitch to solve the bug of running several missions for the count at once. For me it worked this way:

• I was playing the cure for vampirism quest and the wizards one. I enter in the secret room using the glitch (described here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R7uwpeogvM )
• I talk with the count and finish (Completely) the other quest.
• I talk with the assistant, now she no longer say "wait here" but she will talk about the cure quest and youll be able to finish it

StyleEdit

this is just a random question but whats the fur coat he wearing i want one :p .--Umbacano 10:06, 23 February 2008 (EST)

It's actually a shirt - "UpperShirt02" is its name in the CS. You can find one on the second floor of Heinrich Oaken-Hull's house in Anvil. Primo Antonius, one of the residents of Summitmist Manor during Whodunit?, also owns one as do a few other NPCs. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 03:15, 24 February 2008 (EST)

Thanks you saved a whole lotta trouble :) .--Umbacano 10:06, 2 March 2008 (EST)

Does it cover your shirt greaves, boots, and curiass or is it just a plain shirt?.--Umbacano 07:57, 5 March 2008 (EST)

Upper and lower body. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 14:00, 5 March 2008 (EST)

One last question is it on the clothing section? — Unsigned comment by Umbacano (talk • contribs)

Yep. –Eshe^talk19:57, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

More walking around...Edit

I just accepted the Bloodcrust Cavern quest from him, and upon exiting Skingrad (in broad daylight), I met old Janus taking a stroll down the road. He even started a conversation, stating that he saw my fight with the Gray Prince... ahaha.

He seemed fine, until I talked to him again and his skin suddenly started to boil.

Apparently, he made it back inside, because when I later showed up to say hi, he was in his bedchambers. Ended up killing off twelve of his guards who were after me too, but that's another story. -_^

So yeah, I think he has a tendency to go off on his own and "explore." Bravest vampire I can think of. — Unsigned comment by 67.60.62.219 (talk) at 08:00 on 17 April 2008

Bela LugosiEdit

Am I the only one who thinks that Hassildor looks a lot like Bela Lugosi? 24.136.144.118 14:48, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

Yes.

AdventuringEdit

A curious thing. I'm not sure where this should go. While both the "vampire cure" and "confront the king" quests were simultaneously active, I ran into Janus in the Echo Cave. I was having a bit of trouble with an ancient ghost, and he came running up from out of nowhere and started fighting it. What was he doing there? When I talk to him, all he would tell me were Rumors, and when the ghost was dead, he briskly left the cave.

So I don't know if spelunking is a hobby of his, or if he was helping me out because I was a fellow vampire, or if he specifically gets involved in that quest, or what, but I thought it was wacky. Also, the Count is kind of hard core. This was on the Xbox 360. Krone03 12:38, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Sugar DaddyEdit

I can only confirm this for my self, but last night I completed the cure for vampirisme quest and collected my reward as a vampire before drinking the cure myself (I started the quest because of course I didn't want to be a vamp any more). Afterwards I drank the cure and sneaked back to Janus' room and talked to him. wouldn't you know the "reward" button was still available for selection so I did, and sure enough I got the 10000 gold ( I think it might be a leveled reward) reward again...and again ... and again. So far it has continued to work.— Unsigned comment by 198.185.18.207 (talk) on 3 november 2008

You know, trying to read the article here would make you realise that your bug is already described here.--LordDagon^T|C 11:19, 3 November 2008 (EST)

feedingEdit

I was pickpocketing the count and I noted that i cant feed on him. anyone know if this happens to them?--65.30.21.68 13:04, 30 November 2008 (EST)

Read the "Feeding" section of the Vampirism page. Felindre 13:22, 14 December 2008 (EST)

After waking-up from a good nights' sleep in my Bravil house, I was shocked to find the Count of Skingrad stood next to my bed! When I spoke to him there were no new topics, after which he just calmly walked out of my house! - Perky 11:08, 16 May 2009 (EDT)

VN tagEdit

According to this edit, the glowing red vampire is only caused by certain mods. If this is the case, the note should be removed from the article. I would do it, but there may be another explaination that I am unaware of. Dlarsh^{(Talk,Contribs,E-mail)} 03:17, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I did remove it and put a much more reasonable note down. He does NOT turn bright red. But my note got deleted and the wrong one put back up.--Kri-Dar 17:05, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Let's get this straight. I undid your edit because you removed a VN tag without explanation, since you provided no edit summary. So "the wrong one" + the VN tag was put back up. In addition your note is not completely correct: the reason why he doesn't die is due to the fact that sun damage is not a constant effect and therefore will only slightly affect an NPC vampire (as stated here), not because he is essential. Now, if you have indeed found that the present note is incorrect feel free to remove the VN and leave an explanation in your edit summary. Also, don't include the "doesn't die because essential" bit please. --SerCenKing ^Talk 17:21, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I changed it again and I put your little editing note in. Vampires do not turn bright red in sunlight under any circumstances so the VR tag is no longer needed since I verified it.--Kri-Dar 18:09, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, after I completed the Vampire Cure quest, I found him in the courtyard and he DID turn to bright red, so you may want to double check this just to be sure.--S'drassa 18:15, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I checked 3 times!!!!It must only happen now and then, I'll check again and edit it accordingly.--Kri-Dar 18:35, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I just forced him outside via the console and while I see some fairly intense red and yellow colouring at times due to HDR, it's no worse than it is for anybody else with a similar skin colour (Foul Fagus, for instance). Is the "bright red" that people have experienced just a result of that, or is it something else? —Robin Hood (Talk • E-mail • Contribs) 06:43, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I am pretty sure it is. It seems different for each user who has seen this. I think "bright red" will do for now until its looked into further --Kri-Dar 12:13, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I use the PS3 version, with goty version. vampires do indeed have a bright red shade on them in broad daylight. Either by chance or something I did, a vampire was attacking me outside and had the color on. so if its a mod, its probably shivering, though it could be kotn Mikeyboy52 03:19, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

About the NotesEdit

It has been a while since I've been to his page, but since I'm a fan I occasionally check back to see if anything new has popped up on Janus' page. Thus, I would like to point out something new that I feel is an error. Janus cannot be at 25% vampirism for a couple of in-game reasons.

Reason number one is what is the kicker to me: He smokes in the sunlight if you get him (or find him) outside, does he not? (I mean I have never tried to get him out in the sun, but based on every person's account on finding him randomly outside, he smokes which means he's 50% or higher.)

Reason number two (which is arguable): He turns invisible if you fight him (either to get a weapon that is nearby or to do a sneak attack of some sort). This is almost always the first thing that he does if you were to engage in random combat, and he never attempts to try this a second time. Now, as a "powerful mage" (not sure who put that new note of this title being a possible ruse, though it is likely), it is possible that he has an invisibility spell, but I have a bigger feeling that it is his Embrace of Shadows spell at work. This would mean that he is at 100% vampirism like every other vampire NPC, which to me would fit with his character (not feeding like a glutton).

I mean it is possible that he is 25%, but since these other things do come into play, I find it kind of odd. Is there something that I am missing?

(Also, anyone have a guess at how old he really is? Based on the in-game back story, he has not been a vampire that much over 50 years, so I would say at least 70-78 or 80-88 if he was 20-30 or so when he was afflicted...but tvtropes notes that he is over 200 years old, which I find to be impossible unless they were being sarcastic. Just curious.) Shadegirl07 19:59, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

He does indeed have the ability Embrace of Shadows, which seems to conclusively prove that he is at 100%. That note has since been removed. --GK^talk2me 19:08, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Okay then. Thanks. ^^ I see now that the page has been reworked and that he's 50% with all spells except for Reign of Terror. That answers a couple of questions. ^^Shadegirl07 13:23, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Potential ProblemEdit

There doesn't seem to be a way for someone to check his inventory in-game when he's essential, since all NPCs need checking both in-game and CS, what solution is there ?--TheAlbinoOrc 20:05, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

On the PC, you can use the Console: setessential 00028FAE 0 and then kill him. On consoles, you might be able to check it with the picking-the-pocket-as-a-knocked-out-character-wakes-up glitch. rpeh •T•C•E• 20:59, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

That should work. Thanks !--TheAlbinoOrc 22:24, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

pictureEdit

hi i was wondering who put the picture that says"janus hassildor to the rescue" because i want to give them a cookie!--GUM!!! 22:14, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Check the history, it might take a while but that's the easiest way. Oh by the way your signature is unreadable see the link in the discussion here for other options.--TheAlbinoOrc 22:24, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

That's one of mine. You can easily tell who uploaded a picture by clicking on it and looking at the history towards the bottom of the page. rpeh •T•C•E• 22:32, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

ok you can expect a cookie soon!and i can read it just fine but if you know of any other shades of pink i'll gladly change oh please leave the ansewr on my talk page(if you do ansewr)--GUM!!! 01:26, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

RumorsEdit

Is it necessary to have NPC's names by the quotes about him? I was under the impression that most of them were randomly generated, and the top two, at least, could be said by anyone. -DevotedInsanity 21:35, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

All the quotes are unique to the named NPCs - and you will not hear them from anybody else. That is why I felt it was necessary to include the names. When the big CS check comes, I'm pretty sure some more "common" rumors will pop up. --Krusty 21:43, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Janus Talks Repeatedly BugEdit

I've investigated the bug added by this change and I can see some poor coding in one section and it seems reasonable that, as the bug report suggests, it could occur when Vampire Cure and Ulterior Motives are running concurrently. More specifically, I believe what triggers it is if you've got the Vampire Cure potions and then kill Mercator and friends. It looks like the count would get confused at that point until the one of the quests is advanced and breaks the cycle. I'm about to try it myself by using the Construction Set to replicate what I believe causes it, but testing in a "real" game would be better. ‒ Robin Hood↝Talk 18:07, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

I can do this with Mhira sometime in the next few days.--TheAlbinoOrc 21:02, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Do some playing around and see what you can find. So far, I've been unable to replicate the bug stated, but I have gotten to the point mentioned in the first bug where I'm unable to finish the Vampire Cure quest as a result of getting the potions while Ulterior Motives was running. I was forced into finishing Ulterior Motives, but then unable to proceed with Vampire Cure at all. ‒ Robin Hood↝Talk 23:11, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Weird, is it possible that you or the person that posted the bug in the first place had another quest that affected him such as Allies for Bruma ?--TheAlbinoOrc 20:57, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, I was deliberately testing having Vampire Cure and Ulterior Motives running together, so there could have been something going on there — I haven't had the chance to investigate the cause thoroughly. I managed to figure out the end-result and the resolution to it, though, and posted them in this edit. ‒ Robin Hood↝Talk 21:32, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Edit: As a result of posting the above, I realized that I had posted to the wrong article. Looking through the Vampire Cure article, I found that it was already listed as a bug, and I had indeed been "in the way" so that was definitely the cause. I just moved the fix for it to the right article. ‒ Robin Hood↝Talk 21:38, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

TOCEdit

Why is his page set to __NOTOC__ ? Just seems kind of odd.--TheAlbinoOrc 19:48, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

The __NOTOC__ is used so the page doesn't display a table of contents when the article contains many sections, that way the structure of the article doesn't mess up. Similarly, you can place __TOC__ to force the page to display a table of contents. --S'drassa ^•T2M 20:00, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't sure why he'd have that thanks for clearing it up.--TheAlbinoOrc 21:23, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

More Count Bugs.Edit

I just started the Bleakers Way Quest. While waiting at the inn for night to fall, The Count interrupted my waiting session. Just like on the main page, there were no new topics of conversation. "Skingrad" wasn't even a topic. I have started the Vampire Cure quest, but I haven't started "Ulterior Motives". The only other quest I have active that has anything to do with Skingrad is "Buying a House in Skingrad". I hope this little tidbit might help to solve why this glitch occurs. — Unsigned comment by 76.112.31.12 (talk) at 20:46 on 2 April 2010

Thanks for the report. That narrows down the possibilities a fair bit, I'll have a look at it over the weekend if I can. ‒ Robin Hood↝Talk 23:51, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Hassildor in strange locationsEdit

I made a decision and moved the bug here for the time being - the wording isn't exactly informative, it is unclear and full of expressions like "perhaps", "this may be be caused by" and "this theory has not yet been proven". We need to test this a lot before it should go on the article:

• There is also a bug in which the Count will attempt to seek you out and engage you in conversation, perhaps multiple times, but will have no new topics to discuss. This may be caused by having the Vampire Cure questline active during Ulterior Motives, but this theory has not been proven. This bug can be quite ironic - eg. the reclusive Count pays you the honor of an impromptu visit at Rosethorn Hall just to chat.

I can see in the many posts above that several people have seen him roaming around all over Cyrodiil - I am willing to test everything I can - only problem is, I don't really know where to start. Any suggestions? --Krusty 20:38, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

I just ran into him in Oblivion. Here's the background: Cure for Vampirism is active, Ulterior Motives is not. Currently doing Defense of Bruma. I didn't feel like finding the steward (whoever the new one is, since I killed the Necromancer guy) so I picked the lock of the Lord's Manor and met him in there. As soon as I got in he came running towards me, but didn't seem to care that I was trespassing. I spoke to him about Defense of Bruma, then immediately went to the Skingrad Oblivion gate. At the very top of the Sorrow Keep, I had just pulled the switch and killed all the monsters when Hassildor runs inside and says hi. I said hi, then cancelled out of talking, then he walked out. 24.218.219.49 11:28, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like a step in the right direction, but could you be a bit more specific? I really need to know what quest stage of the Cure for Vampirism quest you received just before you met Janus in Oblivion. Thanks in advance! --Krusty 15:29, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Rumours about HassildorEdit

Currently, the page states that no rumours outside Skingrad will reveal that Hassildor is a vampire. Doesn't Vicente Valtieri's remark about him sort of reveal it? Okay, Vicente doesn't flat out say "Janus Hassildor is a vampire", but that's obviously what he means. 89.160.128.6 18:31, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

I think it is merely a suggestion. And, like you say, he doesn't reveal that the Count is a vampire, so I think the wording is okay. --Krusty 18:40, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

New Picture?Edit

I don't know....it's too bright, nothing like his physique or personality....Shianni 23:10, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Feel free to mark it with {{Cleanup}}, but I don't think this one is too bad. rpeh •T•C•E• 23:15, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

He's...smiling. Shianni 23:53, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Freaking me out...Edit

Janus Hassildor just surprised me, in my Bruma house? And in Leyawiin, too... I completed 'Lost Histories' and killed the Pale Lady, (I was supposed to, right???), while sneaking back through the winery, Janus found me, picked a fight, so I knocked him out. It took several reloads to get out of the castle without a bounty, but somehow... Janus was still following me. Has he been following me this entire time?? 0-o I can't quite tell when he started following me, I'm guessing because I had to render him unconscious. Weird.

Talks about himself randomlyEdit

Please forgive me, im rather new but I'm wanted to share this.I was running around skingrad castle, and i heard Janus talking to one of the ladys at the castle and he was bringing up regular rumors. But one caught my attention, as he was talking about himself. He said how strange he is and then just walked away. I thought it rather strange and wandered if anyone else has experienced this? Joo3 05:50, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

There are sets of random conversation that NPCs can use. Usually they set it so that an NPC won't talk about themself, but there are a few that may have been forgotten. --DKong27 ^{Talk Cont} 20:32, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

I haven't experienced it from Janus but count Corvus of Anvil. After i completed thieves guild quest lines, i asked him about rumor, he replied that count Corvus had returned, forgetting that he is Corvus himself.117.4.240.126 16:13, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

TOC 2Edit

Discussion moved to UESPWiki_talk:Oblivion NPC Redesign Project#TOC

Count not coming out of his roomEdit

I talked to the stewardess and she went to go get him, but isn't coming back. I'm only on one Hassildor quest, so that shouldn't be a problem. How do I fix this bug?

I picked the lock on the door and entered to see Hal-Liurz simply standing just inside the door. I had to run to Janus to complete my quest and run out to avoid the guards.

Janus Hassildor dopplegangers???Edit

I was having the same issues with the two quests. I have tried using the coc code to get to the chamber of the lost and there are 8 janus hssildors and not one will even talk to me. It is really irritating me. Anyone have any possible solutions. BTW he took the one vampire cure off of me but it didnt complete the quest.

Try leaving the room, waiting an hour, and then re-entering the room. Kitkat1749 ^{•Talk•Contrib•E-mail} 18:57, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

The Picture Looks OffEdit

The original image of Janus Hassildor is a lot clearer. The current one looks blocky and too bright. I suggest we change it back. --71.178.236.115 15:27, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

That image has been reverted back and forth countless times – fact is, NPC pages needs a square image, showing as much of the NPC as possible, and the current one is all we’ve got. --Krusty 21:02, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Janus not having weaponsEdit

So I've added a note into "bugs" section about Janus rushing to fight necromancers without a weapon. It was reverted back by Jeancey with a comment "Thats not a bug. He just doesn't have weapons in his inventory." But, is not this very absence of a weapon in Janus's inventory (during that quest at least) a bug, while said NPC is supposed to know he will be in a fight and, as a count, supposedly has access to any kinds of weapons? Should Count of Skingrad rush in with his fists when he could get that daedric longsword of uber-punishment, out of his many-years-old hoard? Sergio Morozov (talk) 21:11, 5 January 2013 (GMT)

Not really, OB:Hand to Hand is a skill that is used by many. Having no weapons and attacking someone is not a bug. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 21:19, 5 January 2013 (GMT)

So, surely, a vampire ancient, <<<master spellcaster>>, noble by class and count by title, neglected to take his weapon, and just wanted to show off his <<combat prowess>> in hand-to-hand combat with his dangerous opponents, henchmen of Mannimarco he is so afraid of. This does not make sense. It makes sense when someone fights HtH when they are surprised, poor, non-combatants generally, or boxing champions, but this time Janus was going to the fight/ambush knowingly, why would he use a skill which is not his class skill even, I still do not understand. This is like a guard on patrol would be missing his sword, would this not be a bug too? Sergio Morozov (talk) 21:41, 5 January 2013 (GMT)

Unless there is in-game evidence (beyond personal conjecture) that supports this claim, it is not a bug. It does seem silly that he wouldn't have a weapon, but then again, he is a badass vampiric count. A lore-friendly explanation is that boxing is a very popular sport among nobles and the social elite in the real world, and this is likely the case within the courts of Cyrodiil. • JA^T 23:47, 5 January 2013 (GMT)

Well, maybe this is not a bug, but an oversight rather. But, still, I present three cases to support my claim:

• Seridur - Equips himself when he <<lures>> the player into Memorial Cave. And he is a vampire.
• Jakben - Equips himself when he attacks the player in his crypt, despite being a <<badass vampire>>... umm... well, badass vampire Earl.
• Maelona and Gogan equip themselves when they go into the gang's den.

Also, by the grace of the CS we know that Janus Hassildor is not really proficient in HtH and if he was really so intent on punching enemies to death, why would he happily snatch any weapon player drops for him? (yea, I know it is actually how generic NPC AI behaves ^_^ ) Sergio Morozov (talk) 15:43, 6 January 2013 (GMT)

(←) Please keep your temper. I am sure many of us appreciate both your efforts to improve the quality of the UESP Wiki, and I know I am among those who do. Even so, though I think some of Jak's arguments also sound like speculations, I on the other hand believe it to be too much of speculation to refer to an NPC's behaviour as a bug when it can be argued both fore and against, as long as there are only vague indications and at best indirect evidence fore. —MortenOSlash (talk) 19:19, 7 January 2013 (GMT)

Ah, there are so many of you and only one me, so let Count Hassildor's lack of a weapon be not mentioned in the article. But when players all over the world will not give him a weapon due to lack of this vital information, and this will lead to his inability to resolve the fight quickly, and thus to the countless deaths of Uuras The Shepherd (his goat girlfriend will cry a lot!) - you will be responsible, not me! ^_^ [that last part is a joke, just in case] Sergio Morozov (talk) 19:38, 7 January 2013 (GMT)

LOL. By the way, I have always been finished fighting before the Count has arrived, so I always thought he was scripted to arrive too late to be of any real assistance anyway. From this discussion I understand that the opposite is expected, that the Count is supposed to arrive well in time to turn the tide. —MortenOSlash (talk) 20:08, 7 January 2013 (GMT)

Janus Cured bugEdit

Not sure if this is a bug with the unofficial patches, but after the confrontation of the Ulterior Motives quest where Janus comes to talk to you he is cured(missing all features of being a vampire), I was also trying to finish the Allies For Bruma quest, so I waited 24 hours for him to return to the castle and again he was visually not a vampire! I forgot to grab a screenshot of it so I need to go back a few saves to get it. I have only found a really old forum post on gamesas.com from 2010 talking about the same thing. This may just be an issue with the Unofficial patches off of the nexus, but I'm not sure how that could have affected him. Anyone else experience this before?