Shivering:Thadon

Thadon (RefID: 00013249) (lore page)
Home City	New Sheoth
House	House of Mania, New Sheoth Palace
Race	Wood Elf	Gender	Male
Level	PC+5	Class	Priest of Order
RefID	00013249	BaseID	00012106
Other Information
Health	35 + (3+1)x(PC+4), PC=1-46
Magicka	113 + 5.5x(PC+4) (max=250)
Respons.	90	Aggress.	5
Essential	Until Retaking The Fringe
Faction(s)	Mania; Bliss Citizen; House of Mania; later joins the Forces of Order

Thadon sitting on his throne

Thadon is the Bosmer Duke of Mania, who plays an important role in the Main Quest. He resides in the House of Mania in the New Sheoth Palace District. A true Maniac, he lives a life of ease and frivolity, full of merriment and joy. He likes to dance, sing and paint. He is also very familiar with drugs, specifically Greenmote, Felldew and alcohol. Apparently this hobby has made him absent-minded, leading some to doubt whether he can cope with his position as Duke. Sheogorath himself will tell you about him: "The long-reigning Duke of Mania. A Master of Merriment, if you will. Or if you won't; I suspect it wouldn't matter to him." It is rumored he's had an affair with his counterpart: Syl, the Duchess of Dementia.

Thadon wears a unique enchanted light helmet, the Diadem of Euphoria, and a unique, unlootable robe. He carries a respawnable Cheese Wedge, a paint brush, a copy of From Frog to Man, and the key to the House of Mania. He wakes up at 6am in the morning to dance for three hours in his garden, the Halcyon Conservatory. After his dance lesson, he will paint for a long six hours, from 9am to 3pm. After that, he will be found reading on his throne in the House of Mania until 7pm. He will wait to eat until 8pm, when he will make up for skipping breakfast and lunch by having a long, four hour dinner with his steward, Wide-Eye, and his chef, Gundlar. At 12am he heads to bed in his quarters.

DialogueEdit

Approaching Thadon when he is going about his day will have him make different comments depending on whether he is painting, reading or eating:

"Every day is like being born. So new and so alive!"

"I do so admire good books, they fill my mind with such fantastic images."

"Oh, what a delightful story! Brightens my day, it does."

"A genuine masterpiece comes from the heart, not the mind."

"A splash of blue here... a dab of green there..."

However talking to him before the Understanding Madness quest will be useless, as he will simply say:

"What? What is it? Very busy. Things to do. Or see. Or something."

RumorsEdit

His steward Wide-Eye appears to be entirely enchanted with him:

"I am Wide-Eye, Steward to His Grace, the greatest Duke of Mania in all of history, Thadon. He is my reason for being. My purpose in life."

"Are you here to see Thadon? I would be, if I were you. Thankfully, I already have cause to speak to him every day."

Quests GivenEdit

• Addiction: Return the Chalice of Reversal to Thadon, the Duke of Mania.

Related QuestsEdit

• Understanding Madness: Meet the Duke of Mania and the Duchess of Dementia and join their courts.
• Ritual of Accession: Become a Duke/Duchess in the Court of Madness.
• Ritual of Mania: Kill the Duke of Mania and take his place.
• The Roots of Madness: Cleanse the Pools of Madness.

Quest-Specific EventsEdit

AddictionEdit

When you have started the quest, he will first be confused but then greet you with excitement:

"You? What do you want?"

"Ahh yes, THERE you are! You couldn't imagine how long I've been waiting for you. So little to do, and so much time. Hmm, could you, in fact, imagine just how long I've been waiting? I don't think you could, but I might be wrong. I might also not care. Which is it?"

You will have four different possible replies, starting the quest Addiction:

You haven't waited long at all.

"Haven't I? Hmm, perhaps not. It felt like rather a long time, but then long times get longer when you're standing around thinking about them. A curious thing, that. Long roads get longer too, if you're thinking about them, but what about long words? They don't change nearly as much. Long, short -- it all ends up the same. Dust and tears. Usually tears first, then the dust. Dust can't cry, you see. That would be... well, amusing. You know what's NOT amusing? I don't have my Chalice of Reversal. It makes me sad. When I get sad, I don't care to do much of anything. I certainly don't care to help people who show up on my doorstep wanting something. Are we getting the picture here?"

Thadon dancing in the Halcyon Conservatory

You've been waiting a long time.

"Oh, I wouldn't say that. How long is an eon, when you're ten thousand feet tall? Or if you're purple? It's all relative, you see. You wouldn't really know how long it's been, since you weren't here. If you'd been here, it would've been no time at all, so who's to say? Don't answer that. I know the answer. I knew far more answers once, but they seem to have dried up. Or perhaps they drowned. I don't know anymore. You see? You see what I have to deal with? I can't recall if I'm coming or you're going without the Chalice of Reversal. Oh, now you've upset me."

You've been waiting forever.

"Yes, yes... That just might be true. Or I've not been waiting at all. Forever and nothing are almost the same thing, wouldn't you say? How do you tell one from another if you're smack in the middle? Don't answer that, I already know the answer of course. It came to me during a meal. Not a very good meal, though. Too much pie. Pie is a tricky thing, wouldn't you say? Don't answer that either. Now that forever is over and you're here, you need to go away. Yes, away. There are places you should be, far away from here. The Chalice of Reversal is waiting for you. When I say you, I mean me, but it's no difference to the Chalice. One ends up being the other."

You... don't care?

"Don't I? I thought I did. But then I also thought that you would be heavier. Look at you, you're light as a chair. How DO you walk around like that? It's all the same to me, either way. All of it. Nothing is right without the Chalice. Have you ever used it? No, of course not. You simply must! You just have to try it. It'll change your world, expand your horizons. Contracting leads to expanding, you know. Well, most of the time."

When you now ask about the Chalice of Reversal he will say:

"Oh, so you've heard of it?"

No, I haven't.

"You haven't heard of it, yet you know its name? What a strange creature you are. One of my favorite toys. Does wonders for creativity. Well, not by itself, but it helps. Those Elytra, clever little bugs that they are. Is this making sense? Look, you eat the Felldew, then use the Chalice, and find the world a much brighter and happier place. Honest. But I don't have it. So I can't eat Felldew, because that would just be bad. I mean, really bad. Damn her!"

Yes, I have.

"Then you know why I want it back! Can you imagine trying to eat Felldew without it? Disastrous! Curse that woman!"

Either way, you'll then be able to question him about this "woman"

Who?

"We hold on to fleeting things even as we slip. I knew, and yet I indulged myself anyway. I indulged her a fair bit, too. Hee hee! It was passion, it was... forbidden. Oh, the things that would be said if word got out. That made it all the more delicious. From Dementia's own court, no less. Scandalous! Fatal, perhaps. But passion makes no accomodation [sic] for self-preservation."

Do I know her?

"Don't you? If you don't, you might. You wouldn't fall for her, though. Not the type."

You mean Syl! (if completed The Lady of Paranoia)

"Well, aren't you the clever one. Mind you don't get too full of yourself. You might explode."

Whatever your response, he will continue:

What happened?

"Opposites repel, strangely enough. All that pleasure and pain locked away now, as if it never happened. Unfortunately, the Chalice is locked away as well. I have no wish to retrieve it myself, but fetching it might do you some good. My head is positively throbbing now... can you see it? I need to lie down. Find someone to tell you the rest of the story. Get the Chalice."

Talking to him again will make him ponder:

"You should be elsewhere right now, shouldn't you?"

"Didn't we have this conversation already? Or was that someone else... No, it was me. And you. And so you know what you should be doing right now. The Chalice, remember? Don't forget, because if I forget then no one will remember, and it might cease to exist. Reality is fickle like that."

Chalice of Reversal

"I feel as though we've talked about this. Am I mistaken? Perhaps you're mistaken, and we have spoken of it. I simply can't recall. I could think so much more clearly if I had the Chalice."

He will exit conversation with:

"Take your time, and hurry back. I might not be waiting for you when you return."

Thadon painting in the Halcyon Conservatory

At this point, you can ask several people about the Chalice of Reversal:

House of Mania Guards: "The Chalice is one of the Duke's prized possessions. He has been at a loss without it."

Anya Herrick: "Thadon's problem. Not mine."

Gundlar: "Not my place to talk about it. You need to know, you talk to Wide-Eye."

Kithlan: "You think I care for Thadon's toys? It matters not to me whether he suffers in agony, or erases his mind with drugs. But if you insist... Do you know the lengths of his depravity? How low he stoops to pursue his pathetic lifestyle? Felldew is a poison. It kills. And yet Thadon uses the Chalice he created to twist Felldew into a drug he takes for his own amusement. How sick. If he were smart, he'd thank Sheogorath it's out of his hands now. And, of course, he'd never risk himself traveling through Dunroot Burrow to get it"

Wide-Eye: "I don't ask too many questions of Thadon. It's precious to him, and that's all that matters. It's his own business. But, didn't he mention where it is? Oh... I see. How brilliant of him. This is for you as much as it is for him. Oh, very good Thadon! Dunroot Burrow is your goal, my friend. And what a goal it is."

After having consumed Felldew, Thadon may make a remark upon seeing you in your state:

"Oh my. Look at you. You're in the thick of it now, aren't you?"

He will leave conversation with:

"Finish what you've started, friend. It'll do wonders for you."

Once you acquire the Chalice, he will ditch his usual schedule and instead patiently wait for you to return in the main hall of the House of Mania. When you return with the Chalice, however, he may make a different remark upon seeing you:

"Alive and kicking, are you? Welcome back."

"The triumphant champion returns! So, do you feel any different? Now that you've been through this experience, I mean. You know what it's like now... Always wanting that next fix, hating it but craving it at the same time, and hating yourself for all of it. Ah, well. All over now. The Chalice helps, doesn't it? Indeed it does, and I could use some helping right now. I'll just take that back from you. And as a token of my gratitude, I grant you the role of Courtier of Mania, with all of its entitlements. Which is to say, none."

He will now exit conversation by saying:

"Goodbye. So long. See you soon. Or not. Whichever it might be."

The citizens of the Isles can now be heard commenting about Thadon's reunion with his beloved chalice:

NPC	Dialogue
Ahjazda	"The Chalice has been returned to Thadon. He should use it while there is still time."
Amiable Fanriene	"Thadon is not so moody lately. Do you think that wall is about to fall on me? It seems awfully unstable."
Anya Herrick	"If Thadon has his Chalice back, maybe that will smooth things over between the two Houses."
Arctus	"Bah. I liked when Thadon was in a bad mood. Foolish Maniac."
Atrabhi (Dementia)	"Thadon isn't really addicted to Felldew. Felldew is perfectly safe. There's nothing magical about his special cup either."
Atrabhi (Mania)	"Thadon has his Chalice back. In the stories, men are always off in search of some sword or a cup of some kind."
Beelei	"Will Thadon's Chalice make Deepwallow any safer for me? No? Then I don't care."
Big Head	"Thadon with his Chalice. No Fork for Big Head. Songs of sadness."
Brithaur	"Thadon has his Chalice back. I wonder if he'll let me take a look at it...."
Bruscus Dannus	"Duke Thadon's got his happy juice back, I hear. Good for him. He's always kept things very orderly. I like him."
Caldana Monrius	"Thadon must be back on the Felldew... he's never tried the skooma though. Say, you got any skooma you can spare, friend?"
Cindanwe	"Honestly, who cares if that noble brat Thadon has his toy Chalice? "
Cutter	"Thadon's blood is so tainted. He needs to be cut open so he can let some of the toxin out."
Dervenin	"My heart fills with joy that Lord Thadon has finally recovered from his doldrums."
Dulphumph gro-Urgash	"The Chalice of Reversal is back in Thadon's hands, I hear. Wonder if it could be used as a blunt weapon."
Dumag gro-Bonk	"Thadon's in a much better mood lately. If he weren't so in love with the Felldew, I might invite him over to inspect my "wares" some time."
Erver Devani	"Must be nice to be Duke of Mania, and have your biggest problem surround some missing cup."
Felas Sarandas	"Thadon better not drink out of that Chalice. Who knows how many people have used it while it was missing? Reusing cups is the best way to get sick."
Gundlar	"I'm so relieved that the Chalice is back in Lord Thadon's capable hands. He seems to be himself again."
Halion	"The cup of Thadon is back in hand, a vessel full of dew. It seems someone helped him find it, someone who is new."
Herdir	"Thadon has his Chalice. That'll anger Syl, I'm sure, which means more work for me."
Hirrus Clutumnus	"I hear Thadon's happy again. Dammit! Why is everyone so happy all the time? It's not fair. I just want to die. Is that too much to ask?"
Horkvir Bear-Arm (Dementia)	"You know, I need to get me a habit like Thadon. Might take the edge off. Life can be so hard. Makes me want to cry all the time."
Horkvir Bear-Arm (Mania)	"Thadon's got his cup back? Isn't that nice? I certainly can't lay around drifting on Felldew all day. I've got too many important things to do."
Jastira Nanus (Dementia)	"Thadon's back to his old self, I hear. He gets moody when he's not on the Felldew. He had two people killed. I know. I counted them."
Jastira Nanus (Mania)	"5, 6... Thadon's back on the Felldew... 7, 8... without the downer... 10, 11."
Jayred Ice-Veins	"They say Thadon is addicted to some drug. I can understand what that's like. The bones call to me like his drug calls to him."
J'zidzo (Dementia)	"Thadon's got his cup. The world's back in order. I get it. So then why the hell are you still here bothering me? Get lost!"
J'zidzo (Mania)	"So the addict says to the whore, "Gimme back my Chalice of Reversal!" Ha ha!"
Kishashi	"There is more to Thadon and Syl than they let on. Let's just say... well. You know."
Kithlan	"Thadon has one less excuse for his sloppy rule over Bliss, now that he has his Chalice again."
Ma'zaddha	"Thadon has his Chalice back. Why won't anyone help me replace what I've lost?"
Mirili Ulven	"Everyone's talking about Duke Thadon and his Chalice. How tedious. Don't people understand I have important work to finish?"
Muurine	"Thadon had outside help getting his Chalice back. Something sneaky going on there."
Nanette Don	"Thadon is addicted to Felldew. I stay away from drugs. A sorceress needs a clear mind. Hey, do you hear those dogs barking? They're so loud!"
Orinthal	"With his Chalice returned, Thadon seems to smile at least four times as often. That's just an estimation, of course."
Ranarr-Jo	"Thadon finally has his precious Chalice. But, such things do not matter to those of us who work for a living."
Raven Biter	"Thadon got his Chalice back. I heard he uses it around women. Better steer clear of mine."
Relmyna Verenim	"Thadon's a fool. Who cares about his precious Chalice?"
Rendil Drarara	"So, Thadon has the Chalice again? I wish I had time to loaf about and drink Felldew."
Runs-in-Circles	"Here's one you haven't heard, I bet. The Duke's got his Chalice back. Hmm? See what I mean? Now, what can you do for me?"
Sheer Meedish	"A Chalice for Thadon! I like chalices. And mugs. And steins. Cups are good, too."
Shelden	"Thadon has his Chalice back. Doesn't he know a good leader doesn't need any of that? Just his native intelligence. I would know."
Sickly Bernice	"How can Thadon drink from that Chalice? Who knows what germs are on it?"
Sontaire	"Why would Thadon need a stupid Chalice when he could simply have me as a refreshment?"
Syl	"Thadon and his Chalice can both rot in Hell, for all I care."
Tall-Trees-Falling	"Thadon is in high spirits now? I'm glad someone is."
Thaedil	"Now that Duke Thadon's happy again, I'm sure he'll invite me to the palace to perform! Oh, who am I kidding...."
Tilse Areleth	"Good that Thadon got his Chalice back. I'd hate if someone took mine. Or anything else, for that matter."
Tove the Unrestful	"Thadon seems upbeat again. I know how hard it is to get anything done when you're not feeling up to it."
Urul gro-Agamph (Dementia)	"Did Thadon send you? Oh... I forgot he's happy again. Well, who sent you then? My word, your pinchers are huge! Stay back!"
Urul gro-Agamph (Mania)	"Oh, listen to you... a talking bird! How sweet. Did you know that Thadon's back to his old self? Fly away now! Be free!"
Wide-Eye	"Master Thadon has his Chalice again. Happy days for us all."
Zoe Malene	"Thadon's new mood after recovering his Chalice is quite nice."

In response, others will say:

"I'm glad our Duke has regained his Chalice."

"What's good for Thadon is good for all of Bliss."

"A fool and his Chalice. Wonderful."

"Thadon is a drug-addled fool."

"Why would I care if someone is helping Thadon?"

"Good for Thadon. Doesn't help us any."

"I'm sure the Duke is very happy."

"I'm sure Thadon will celebrate appropriately."

The Lady of ParanoiaEdit

During the quest you will discover that the conspiracy centers around the fact Thadon has been "passionate" with Lady Syl. Ma'zaddha will tell you about it:

"She and Thadon... they've been meeting in secret. They've been doing things together. Consorting. You understand me?"

If you confront Thadon about it, he will dismiss you:

Conspiracy

"Oh, no. You'll not drag me into Syl's mess. She made this bed, now it's up to her to burn it."

Wide-Eye will also comment on the ongoing investigation:

"The court of Dementia is in disarray once more. Good that Thadon is such a better ruler than Syl."

Ritual of ManiaEdit

Thadon having a bit of a heart problem during his soliloquy

If you choose to become Duke/Duchess of Mania, you're going to have to get rid of Thadon through the Ritual of Mania. Instead of murdering him in cold blood, you are to give him an overdose of Greenmote, for you need the blood from his exploded heart to satisfy the ritual. This is a mission that will put your stealth to the test: you won't have anything worse to fear than gaining a bounty. Sheogorath himself will tell you it's a safer choice than having to kill Syl:

"A safer choice, perhaps. Maybe you'll live through this. Thadon's a bit lost these days. Not that it's a bad thing. It suits him. Until now. Besides, won't it be a grand surprise when you make his heart burst from too much Greenmote? Thadon loves surprises!"

Thadon

"Thadon may be in a constant state of euphoria, but I wouldn't underestimate his intelligence. Oh, this is so much fun!"

Throughout the whole ordeal, Thadon won't have time to talk to you, as he will remark upon greeting you:

"Ah, you again! A pleasure, I'm sure. No time for chatter now; I have a few important things to attend to, or did I? Ah well..."

In order to find Greenmote, you're going to have to talk to his steward, Wide-Eye. If you greet her after having been pointed to her, she'll suspect you've been talking to Thadon:

"You've been speaking to Thadon. I can tell. He has a certain... effect on people."

Thadon

"Such a kind and noble man. In times like these, it's good to have a leader who still enjoys all the modern pleasures Mania has to offer."

If you ask her about her routine with a disposition of less than 60, she will prove uncooperative:

"Thadon has too many enemies that may turn that knowledge against him. He depends on me quite dearly."

Raise her disposition though, and she will give some specific information about Thadon's evenings:

"Around 8 p.m., we are served dinner. Gundlar is quite a chef and prepares Thadon's meals personally, adding just a hint of Greenmote. After that, we dance, we sing, or we do whatever else suits my lord's tastes."

Thadon's heart exploding

After having successfully dosed his meal with Greenmote, all you have to do is wait until the 8pm dinner. Should you attend this dinner, he will rise from his throne as the rest enjoys their meal. Sit back and enjoy his soliloquy:

"Oh my yes, I feel especially delighted this evening! Perhaps it's time I recited my latest soliloquy.

Ahem. The lady fair, our love is told. With hair as fine as soft-spun gold.

Lips as red as a sun-drenched dawn, skin as soft as a newborn fawn.

Eyes as blue as a cerulean sea...uhh...what...

...my heart...can't breathe...help me..."

After that, he will drop dead as his heart bursts, leaving you to gather his blood. Wide-Eye will cry over Thadon's death, but will try to accept what has happened upon greeting you: "I never suspected it was Thadon's time, but what's done is done. I honor his choice." Gundlar will be happy however, raising his arms in enjoyment: "There's no need to mourn. The Ritual has begun! Be happy!"

When you report back to Sheogorath, he will be delighted:

"You've done it! The Ritual is complete, and you've survived! A shame about Thadon, but it's how he would have wanted to go."

You may then hear residents of Mania commenting on his demise:

NPC	Dialogue
Ahjazda	"Thadon is gone! Perhaps things are looking up."
Anya Herrick	"Thank Sheogorath it was Thadon who was killed, not Syl."
Atrabhi (Dementia)	"Thadon isn't dead. He's just hiding."
Atrabhi (Mania)	"Thadon is dead. Quite a tragedy. Perhaps someone will write about it."
Brithaur	"Thadon gone.... I wonder if his quarters are still guarded."
Cindanwe	"I don't expect anyone to be working any less just because of Thadon's death. Take a moment to mourn, then back to work."
Cutter	"I heard Thadon's heart exploded. There would have been a great deal of blood. Sweet, sweet heart's blood."
Dredhwen	"Thadon is dead? I had a nightmare about that once."
Dumag gro-Bonk	"I can't believe Thadon is gone. He was a lovely man."
Earil	"Thadon has been replaced. It is a moment worth capturing forever."
Felas Sarandas	"Someone has replaced the Duke. I bet he got sick and died."
Gundlar	"My master has partaken of the Greenmote and passed his post onto another. Now a new rule begins in the House of Mania."
Herdir	"Thadon has died. I hope he didn't go quietly."
Hirrus Clutumnus	"Thadon is dead. Lucky bastard."
Horkvir Bear-Arm (Mania)	"What do I care of the intrigues of the city? Old Duke, new Duke. I'm too busy to keep track of all that nonsense."
Jayred Ice-Veins	"Someone new is running Bliss. Can't say I care."
J'zidzo (Dementia)	"Thadon's dead? So what? He annoyed me as much as you do."
J'zidzo (Mania)	"...and he says, "Eat the Greenmote, drag Thadon. Eat the Greenmote, drag Thadon." Ha!"
Kishashi	"Thadon's not dead. He lives underground. In a house made of cheese."
Kithlan	"Thadon is dead. Bliss will be even more of a mess than before."
Ma'zaddha	"Now that Thadon is dead, I should see if he had my things in his quarters."
Mirili Ulven	"I understand Mania has a new leader. Not my area of interest, honestly."
Muurine	"I heard Thadon is dead. Nothing wrong with that."
Orinthal	"There was only a 16 percent chance Thadon's heart would explode."
Ranarr-Jo	"With Thadon gone, perhaps someone will help us out here."
Raven Biter	"Thadon is dead, and a new ruler is in his place. Sheer-Meedish must be excited."
Relmyna Verenim	"Thadon's dead? They're all just bags of meat to me."
Rendil Drarara	"I hadn't heard that Thadon was replaced, I was too busy perfecting my latest culinary creation."
Runs-in-Circles	"Not every day we get a new Duke! Let's celebrate, you and me! Whaddya say you buy the first round?"
Sheer Meedish	"Thadon is dead. I drink to his health. Or... whatever."
Sickly Bernice	"Thadon has passed the mantle. I heard he was in bad health, anyway, and I know how that is."
Sontaire	"Poor Thadon, he was such a handsome man... I enjoyed our midnight meetings. I hope the new ruler of Mania is ready for me."
Tall-Trees-Falling	"Like the leaves of a tree, Thadon has fallen from Sheogorath's grace and no longer rules Mania."
Tilse Areleth	"Thadon is gone. I wonder if he left anything worth keeping..."
Una Armina	"Thadon is dead. I wonder if he had anything interesting for the museum...."
Zoe Malene	"The Duke of Mania has been assassinated? Well, no need to finish his portrait, then...."

In response, others will say:

"Syl being killed is no surprise, but Thadon leaving, as well?"

"Who cares about Crucible? Who will replace Thadon?"

"Syl is dead, but Thadon is missing! These are dark times."

"A shame about Thadon. He lived life to its fullest."

"With Thadon dead and Syl gone, there's only one Duke left in the city."

"Thadon finally did himself in. Good riddance."

"Thadon dead, and Syl gone. This isn't good."

"It's no surprise Thadon killed himself. I'm more shocked about Syl."

"Seems things are a mess in New Sheoth."

"Thadon and Syl gone. Strange times."

"We all knew that's how Thadon would go. But, Syl?"

Ritual of DementiaEdit

If you opt to replace Syl during the Ritual of Dementia however, Thadon will obviously play much less of a role in your road to Duke/Duchess. As soon as you kill Syl, he will disappear from his throne room. He will, however, interrupt your ceremony in the Sacellum right after being claimed Duke/Duchess of Dementia by Arctus. You'll hear him shout as he walks up to the altar, accompanied by two Golden Saints:

Thadon arguing with Sheogorath in the Sacellum

Thadon: "Wait! I must speak! Halt! Cease! Desist!"

Sheogorath: "Thadon, how dare you interrupt me! Only I interrupt me. Like just then. I'm speaking with someone. We'll talk later. Or not. When is later, exactly? Not now, I'm sure of that. Guards, I think Thadon forgot how to use the door. Kindly show him out. Before I forget myself."

"Syl... my... Syl is dead? This can't be right. Is this right? What have you done? Have you done this?"

"Hold your tongue, little Duke, or I'll tear it from your mouth."

"But, this... stranger? Someone new? From somewhere else? Not here. I'm sure of that. I don't understand. Or I can't."

"Calm yourself, Thadon. You're making my teeth itch. You still hold your office. I suggest you see to your duties."

"Ridiculous! You can't do this! Although... you're omnipotent. Or just tall. It's one of the two, I'm sure. And a fool!"

"Fool? Visionary! Change is in the air, Thadon. Breathe it deep! Bathe in its scent! Bottle it up. Save some for later."

Thadon arguing with Sheogorath in the Sacellum

"Order approaches! It's taken the Fringe already! With Order clothes and Order hats! And you speak of "change"?"

"Change will preserve us! It is the lifeblood of the Isles. It will move mountains! It will mount movements!"

"No. No. Certainly not. This isn't good. I'm sure it's bad. I can't do this anymore. No more."

"Then go, Thadon. Have your Greenmote. Take a bath. But leave. Before I decorate my throne with your insides."

"Yes. That's it. I'll go. Away. Far away. Working for them is like working for us, but without all the dying."

[Guards draw weapons]

"No! Let him go!"

"Enough! I go to Jyggalag. I give myself to him, as a Priest of Order! This isn't done, Madgod. I think it's just started."

After the dispute, Thadon will leave the Sacellum and the Madgod will comment:

"Wondering why I let him go, aren't you? I can see it in your face. Mostly in the eyes. I may take those from you when this is done. This has never happened before! The ruler of Mania turning traitor? Unprecedented! But different is good. A new act in this play. Maybe we're on to something here. We'll see how it plays out. It can't be worse than what's happened before."

Thadon will then be disabled and will be removed from all of his factions.

The Helpless ArmyEdit

Provided you're the Duke/Duchess of Dementia, Brellach will be taken over by Order during The Helpless Army. Thadon is said to be the one to have let them in before the Golden Saints could organize themselves. Although Thadon plays a major part in this quest, you won't actually get to see him. Instead, he will be mentioned frequently as you progress the quest:

• Issmi:
  • "Thadon let them in. More than I could count. It was all we could do to fall back and regroup out here."
  • Call aside
• Staada:
  • "Where is Thadon? Have you seen him? That traitorous coward!"
  • "Thadon... the snake. He showed up, asked for a contingent of guards. Said there was trouble, and that we were needed. We were so focused on organizing quickly that by the time we realized he'd let Order in himself, it was too late. We were split up and picked off."
  • "No sign of him yet. We'll do our best to track him down, and deliver him to Lord Sheogorath for a fitting punishment. The traitor must be brought to justice!"
• Golden Saints at Brellach: "Our own Duke, aligned with the forces of Order? An infuriating thought! He will suffer greatly at the hands of Lord Sheogorath."

The Roots of MadnessEdit

If you completed the Ritual of Dementia, you will get to see Thadon once more during The Roots of Madness. You'll find him helping Priests of Order contaminate either the Pool of Mania or the Pool of Dementia: he will be found in the second pool you choose to cleanse. As he will now be part of the Forces of Order, he will be wearing an Order Priest's Robe this time, and will be armed with a leveled dagger or shortsword of the highest possible quality of your level, possibly enchanted. He will also carry either another dagger or shortsword of Iron, Steel, or Silver quality depending on your level; or starting from level 6, he will carry a leveled Crystal Staff instead. He will also have two leveled potions, of which one is a healing potion. He will also be able to cast a leveled set of Priest of Order Spells. Summoning Haskill while nearby will have him caustically remark:

"If I'm not mistaken, that's the traitor Thadon. Right there. I'm not normally a bloodthirsty man, but I wonder if killing her/him might be a good idea?"

As he sees you, he will cry out:

"Sheogorath's pet! Her/His head will make a fitting ornament for our Lord Jyggalag's throne room!"

He will then continue to contaminate the pool, and give the following speech as the other Priests of Order attack you:

Thadon in Order clothing

"You. Of course. Sheogorath's assassin."

"I see so clearly now, what a fool I have been. A happy, heedless fool."

"How he must have mocked me, with my poems, and my painting, and my meaningless revelry."

"But no more. No more!"

"If only I had seen it sooner. My beloved Syl might stand here next to me."

"Instead, she is dead, at your hand. And Sheogorath's command!"

"I hope you enjoyed your reign, as it is almost at an end."

"Jyggalag is coming. He cannot be stopped. He will rule this land, and all our delusions will be stripped away."

"None too soon. We have lived too long as the playthings of the Madgod." [He will draw his weapon and attack you when he says this line]

"Now, taste the power of the true Lord of this realm!"

After this final line, he will attack you. He may also attack you if the priests have been killed before he finished his speech. It's possible he will immediately attack upon seeing you, should he have a low disposition towards you.

During combat he may shout out one of the following lines:

"Where is Sheogorath now? He has abandoned you, as he did me."

"My Lord Jyggalag will never be turned aside by the likes of you, fool!"

"Jyggalag will reward me well for your death!"

If you manage to talk to him, be it through using a Charm spell or through a high Sneak skill, he will show some more devotion towards Jyggalag as you talk to him, though he will resume his attack thereafter:

"Why did you come here? Why do you still do the bidding of that prattling madman? When I bowed the knee to Jyggalag, my eyes were opened. All that had come before - meaningless. Pointless frivolity. My lord Jyggalag has given me clarity, and purpose. Order's time has come. The Greymarch is upon you."

If you instead replaced Thadon as Duke of Mania, when encountering Syl she will bitterly note in her final monologue:

"If only I had seen it sooner. Thadon might stand here next to me, to help usher in the rule of Order to this benighted realm!"

"Instead, he is dead, at your hand. And Sheogorath's command!"

Quest-Specific RumorsEdit

At different stages in the Main Quest, Thadon may share various rumors with you or other NPCs:

• "Someone new comes to the Isles. Much more interesting than someone old."
• "Gatekeeper's gone. For good. Or not. Might just be on holiday. We'll see."
• "The Resonator sings its sweet song once more. Promises of riches and fame, fulfilled with death and madness. How delightful."
• "The Chalice is once again in its rightful place. And places are rightfully mine. And Chalices. Right?"
• "My, my, my. Seems we're all anxious to know something, even if we already know it. Or, Syl knows it. Or not."
• "A torch is lit. The light is lighted. Or lit. It's a Great Torch. Much better than most."

Unused DialogueEdit

• There is an unused goodbye line that you will never hear Thadon speak. He was meant to say it after you'd killed Syl, but he is disabled at this point and will only reappear during a cutscene once you've placed her heart on the altar in the Sacellum Arden-Sul:

"I wish something would happen already. There is so much else I could be doing."

NotesEdit

• His class is always Priest of Order and he'll always have their set of spells, even before joining the Forces of Order.
• On occasion, you can see him attempt to talk to his Golden Saint guards, but they respond to him rudely like to any other mortal.
• Thadon also appears in the story expansion Isle of Madness for Legends as the card Thadon, Duke of Mania.